How Critique Sites Can Help Any Writer, Amateur or Pro

Even the best of us don’t spot silly mistakes in our writing. L.N. Hunter

Guest author L.N. Hunter provides his observations about the value of critiques, and supplies several helpful links. See also his recent commentary: What Do Americans Have Against the Letter “U” Anyway?

L.N. hails from the UK; therefore his grammar and spelling is based on UK English.

Why do you write?

Some people write for the fun of it, with no intention of ever letting anyone else see the fruits of their labours. If that describes you, stop reading now! This article ain’t for your eyes.

The rest of us want readers, and if you intend to publish your work anywhere, before you send your writing out into the world, you really ought to have someone else take a close, critical look at it. Even the best of us don’t spot silly mistakes in our own writing [1]: we tend to read what’s in our head, not what’s on the page.

Sure, there are ways to trick your writer-y mind into acting like a reader-y one, such as reviewing your writing in a different guise — on paper or in audio form. Nonetheless, other people are better still at finding ‘areas for improvement.’ And it’s not just the little things: we all get locked into our own cycle of thinking, and it takes an external reader to show us different ways of interpreting what we’ve written or to propose directions to take the story.

Many people get their critical feedback within a tightly knit writing group, typically in-person or via video meetings. But what if you haven’t got an easily accessible writing group, or you just don’t like the pressure of live meetings? (Let’s face it, some of us are introverts who’d sooner throw a bit of writing in a drawer, never to be seen again, than actually talk to someone else about it!)

Is there an alternative?

Well, yes, otherwise I wouldn’t be writing this …

Critique sites [2] are places where you can get people to look at your work. You upload a piece of work and other site members can make structured comments on it — if you’ve used collaborative editing in Microsoft Word or Google Docs, the principles are similar. It typically costs ‘points’ to post work, and you accumulate those points by performing critiques. Some of the sites are free, some require a subscription, and some offer both, such as Scribophile [3], the one I spend most of my time on.

A warning, though … You can post your work on a number of public sites (Wattpad’s one example) and get feedback there. However, because your work is publicly accessible, you might have difficulties in then getting it published elsewhere. Critique sites are ‘private’ (in that only members can see your work) which should avoid this, though that seems a fairly small distinction given how easy it is to become a member. Neil Clarke (of Clarkesworld) has fairly strong views on this, and says he won’t accept material that has appeared on critique sites [4]. I’m not sure how much he actually applies his own rule, as there’s a discussion on Scribophile in which people mention Clarkesworld acceptances for works that have been critiqued there. Still, Neil’s not the only one who holds this view, so if you’re worried about such things, you probably ought to steer clear of any website for pre-publication work!

So, what do these critique sites offer?

First, you get to expose your writing to a bunch of mainly sympathetic folk — they know what it’s like to receive a critique and will aim to give constructive feedback in the manner they’d like to receive. Letting someone else see your work, let alone critique it, for the very first time can be daunting, but I would suggest that because of this, these sites make it less traumatic. It can also help with general stress levels that your critiquers are usually strangers, and that your primary interaction with them is within this narrow domain.

Next, if the site’s large enough (and the good ones are), you can pretty easily find writers of genres and styles compatible with your own, making the swap process more enjoyable and productive.

Third, there are often other site features, such as discussion boards or contests, which can help build community or provide learning resources.

And finally, something not to be sniffed at: you get validation by others, always a pleasant confidence boost.

It’s not unconditionally positive: there can be some issues to deal with.

  • The majority of people on these sites are enthusiastic amateurs, so you won’t necessarily get the ‘right’ editing advice (if there is such a thing) — if you want more, you probably have to pay for professional services [5].
  • You need to develop a thick skin — people don’t deliberately to go out of their way to be rude, but can sometimes be a little too direct when giving feedback. I actually think this is a good thing, and much prefer clear feedback over something wrapped in a layer of politeness! Just remember they’re critiquing the writing, not the writer. (In any case, you’ll need a thick skin for when rejections come in, but that’s a topic for another time.)
  • Unfortunately, sometimes there are just plain bad critiques. I’ve had to deal with a couple of different types: first, the ones that amount to ‘this is <fertiliser> and I don’t like it’ — after a few of these from the same person, I’ve resorted to ‘blocking’ them; and the low-effort, negligible-content ones, either the ‘horoscope,’ so inanely bland that it could apply to anything, or obvious results of feeding your precious work through an online grammar checker — there’s not much you can do about those other than report them to the site admins (which at least costs the lazy ‘critiquer’ the ‘points’ they would otherwise have gained, and could lead to them being banned if they keep doing this).
  • While most critique sites have a free option, it can cost money to get the most out of them. For example, Scribophile’s free tier allows you to post at most two pieces at a time — if you’re more into short stories than novels, that could be just fine, but it doesn’t really work for longer material. Nonetheless, free tiers or trials are an excellent way to try a few sites before committing yourself. If you hunt, you can find some totally free ones, such as Critique.org, which looks great — alas, I can’t try it from this side of the Atlantic due to the site owners being (IMO) too cautious about GDPR risks [6].
  • These sites tend to orient towards processing short chunks of writing (up to a few thousand words). That means that when used for novel swaps, the critiques tend to focus on a chapter at a time, so it can be tricky to get big picture feedback. I’m not sure what a good solution to that is, but still, even this level of critique is better than nothing at all.

One thing I haven’t dwelt on is the other side of the coin: giving critiques.

Yes, this can be hard work, but besides accumulating credit for return critiques, giving critiques exposes you to different writing styles and can improve your own writing. There isn’t space here to expand on this, but others have already done so [7].

Wrapping up, critique sites can be easier to find than a local writing group and will suit some personalities better than such a group anyway. They’re not perfect, but I can say, hand on heart, that they’ve immensely improved my writing.

Your turn.

I’d love to hear from any readers who’ve used such sites — which one(s) and how are they working out for you?

© L.N. Hunter

References

[1] https://www.wired.com/2014/08/wuwt-typos/

[2] https://www.christopherfielden.com/short-story-tips-and-writing-advice/free-writing-critiques.php

[3] https://www.scribophile.com/

[4] http://neil-clarke.com/first-rights/

[5] https://writershelpingwriters.net/2019/10/story-feedback-free-and-paid-options-for-writers/

[6] https://critters.org/c/privacy.ht#privacy

About L.N. Hunter

The Feather and the Lamp

L.N. Hunter’s comic fantasy novel, The Feather and the Lamp, sits alongside works in anthologies War and Trickster’s Treats 3 as well as Short Édition’s Short Circuit and the Horrifying Tales of Wonder podcast. There have also been papers in the IEEE Transactions on Neural Networks, which are probably somewhat less relevant and definitely less fun.

When not writing, L.N. unwinds in a disorganised home in rural Carlisle, UK, along with two cats and a soulmate.

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7 thoughts on “How Critique Sites Can Help Any Writer, Amateur or Pro

  1. Hi L.N.,

    Thanks for a cool post. For sure critiques are important and a big help in improving a story a novel or a poem.

    I got into a group last year and like it because they provide a prompt, and you write about anything it inspires. You post your work every other month. It also offers prizes like partial and full critiques and an occasional Amazon gift card. Sounds good, huh? Well, maybe not. Seems it’s a mutual admiration group with them praising one another’s work like it’s the best thing since fish and chips. No one suggests what might improve the story. The comments are short and sweet. Wow, I must be a sensational writer. Lol. I’m afraid to do an honest critique. So, like the cowardly lion, I follow the others with milk and honey comments. Ack!

    So, why do I keep posting there? Duh! I dunno. Probably because I know whatever I post will get nothing but positive comments. Good for my ego. And I might win a prize. I did win a prize of a critique of one of my children’s stories. It focused on grammar but did have a few good suggestions. Unfortunately, the critique person got upset because I used the Oxford comma. She crossed them out for several pages and finally wrote a harsh note instructing me to never use it and telling me no one will publish my story if I do. Yikes! Scary. Made me want to toss the story in the trash and never see it again. I didn’t.

    I’m fortunate because I have several people, including a few published authors, who are willing to read my stuff and give me honest critiques. They help me improve my writing. Their input has taught me how to do an honest and helpful critique.

    And Miss Kathy’s posts have helped me improve my writing too. 🙂

    Thanks again for an educational and useful post.

    Happy summer!

    • I can see how that feedback isn’t particularly useful, though – as you say – a bit of ego massage doesn’t hurt. I can see the regular prompts being helpful, to kick your brain into creative action.

      As for the commas critique – yeah, not helpful. As a Briton on a mainly US critique site, I often get ‘corrections’ for my spelling punctuation. Annoying, but ignorable.

    • I’m with you on the Oxford comma, Lenny. All the way.

      Without Oxford (serial) comma: My parents, Martin Sheen and Wendie Malick attended the ceremony.

      With Oxford (serial) comma: My parents, Martin Sheen, and Wendie Malick attended the ceremony.

      Isn’t it amazing how much power a tiny squiggle wields?

  2. I just started with CritqueMatch.com. Robust list of fellow writers, but the site was a bit confusing to use at first. Finally, I submitted a piece to 5 people, and received two critiques: one focused on the rules of writing (adverbs and such), and the other offered helpful suggestions. Did not end up with a partner, which I was hoping for, but maybe I can get over that in the interest of getting eyes on my projects.
    Free for general critiques, cost is to “hire” someone on the site with editing chops.
    Thank you so much for this informative and encouraging article!

    • Thanks for the comment.

      I’ve got no experience with CritiqueMatch, but I would imagine that selecting potential partners up front could be difficult. In the sites I’ve tried, you throw your work out and hope that other people will pick it up. The critiques are variable, but generally helpful in some way. Over time, you get a feel for other writers’ work and vice versa, and build up partner-ish relationships that way.

      The mix of free and paid on the same site sounds convenient – I might have to investigate CritiqueMatch…

      And yes, you do get a mix of fiddly details and higher level commentary (both of which can be useful) – on Scribophile, you can state what you’d like people to focus on, though that doesn’t mean they follow that guidance.

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